Last week I was wandering around Kmart trying to find an adapter plug. In my search I found myself walking through the Lego aisle. I was taken aback by the fierce feeling of joy and longing that hit me as I walked into that aisle. When my son, Patrick, was little we would spend a lot of time in this aisle. Pat would carefully examine each box – trying to decide, ‘Is a Luke Skywalker + Desert Skiff set better than a Hans Solo + StarFighter set?’ I would get bored and impatient as he carefully pondered these questions and start to hurry him along.
Standing in that aisle, those memories came back to me with such intensity. I felt so proud of the young man that Pat has become and at the same time I longed to go back in time, hug that earnest little boy and gently tell that younger version of myself not to be in such a rush, that these moments were precious.
I drank in that memory and walked on. A moment later, I saw these bargain jeans.
I thought, ‘How can they do that for $7?’ and unbidden, thoughts of the recent news about deaths in garment factories in Bangladesh came to mind. I felt sad, guilty and powerless.
Someone watching me might have been surprised by the emotions I seemed to be experiencing. They might have come up with a story for why I seemed upset looking at a pile of jeans or why I had a tender smile in the Lego aisle. It is unlikely that they would accurately work out what was going on inside me.
These two moments show why perspective taking can be so hard.
On the surface they seem very similar. I was reminded of something and then I felt an emotion. But they are quite different in one important respect. In the Lego Aisle I was reminded of something that had actually happened to me. But in the jeans aisle the ideas that provoked the painful emotions weren’t a result of my direct experience. I had looked at a series of squiggles on a computer screen a few days earlier and now seeing some jeans makes me sad. This difference might seem pedantic but it has some important practical implications.
The second incident requires language. Language means that a pair of jeans can make me sad because of something that has happened to some people I have never met, in a place I have never been to. This is an important difference between humans and other animals. It is part of the reason that humans are much more vulnerable to emotional pain than other animals. It also means it can be incredibly hard to interpret, predict and influence our own and other people’s emotions.
Say my manager tells me I haven’t done a good job on a piece of work. My response won’t just be to that event, it won’t even just relate to all the other experiences I have had that my mind tells me are similar – conversations with this manager, with previous managers or other colleagues and possibly even that time 40 years ago when Mrs Leary (the scary teacher) shouted at me in grade 3. (I asked to go to the bathroom 10 minutes after we had returned from lunch break, she found this annoying.) Experiences I have had in the real world won’t be the only factors influencing me. I will also be influenced by what I have learnt through language. It could be my Dad telling me that most managers are fools, the theory I learnt at university about how these conversations should go or the story I have about myself that I am disorganised and incompetent. The factors influencing my response could be numerous. (Psychological flexibility is the skill of not being pushed around by these responses and is the central theme of this blog.)
This means that when my manager tries to do the right thing and work out my perspective on the feedback, she is likely to get it wrong.
It is almost impossible to really see the world through another person’s eyes. Insoo Kim Berg used to say ‘You must have a good reason to…’ She believed that people’s behaviour always made sense to them. If the behaviour doesn’t make sense to us then it is because we don’t have enough information. Her response was to ask questions with a stance of genuine curiosity and a real interest in understanding the other person and their behaviour.
Unsurprisingly, research shows that negotiations lead to better outcomes when at least one party asks good questions. Negotiators tend to make false assumptions about the other person’s needs and motives. Acting on those assumptions leads to poorer outcomes for both parties.
So next time you need to have a difficult conversation with someone – do spend time considering their perspective before the conversation but also make sure you remain curious throughout the conversation, gathering information that will help you both to reach a good outcome.
“You must have a good reason to…” Insoo Kim Berg
10 thoughts on “You must have a good reason to….”
Beautiful Rach. You certainly have a talent, hard cultivated, for expressing yourself in written language be it ‘simple’ concepts or multifaceted complex ones. Thank you for this piece.
Thank you! Writing is such hard and terrifying work. Typing away as my mind says, ‘This is shit’. I really appreciate the feedback.
I totally understand your feeling about writing. Having nice feedback so helps. Keep up the good work!
As someone who has traveled to China for 30 years and saw the abject poverty of subsistence living give way to better and better economic circumstances due to international trade, I, too, have a response to $7 jeans, but it’s an opposite emotional response! I am often deeply moved, even emotional, about the thought of the young people I saw who were lifted out of poverty and bleak futures to become independent, hard-working, money-saving adults who rented apartments, bought homes and cars, and had kids, who they then could send to school. The principle is the same. $7 jeans can evoke an emotional response, but which one it is is based entirely on what your mind believes to be true about the world. Those beliefs can come from squiggles on a computer screen or one’s direct experience.
I don’t want to miss the chance to say I thought your post was truly excellent. As an ACTor, I thought you nailed the ideas and I aim every day to hear and see the stories I tell myself and to know when I’m buying into them. It is so hard! But I do believe my psychological rigidity has yielded somewhat to being more present and more experimental and questioning about what’s available in this life for me. That’s the reward for sure.
Thanks Kathy, That is such a great example of perspective taking and the importance of holding our thoughts lightly. That $7 jeans mean one thing to me and something quite different to you – fantastic point. Thank you.
Thank you Rachel: reinforces my understanding of ACT and re-inspires my intention to be present to others. I’ll be forwarding this to quite a few people; wonderful post!
Another very nice post Rachel, you write concisely and beautifully. I’ll be sharing this one around too! Thanks.
Thanks Peter, I am v much looking forward to seeing you at World Con!
Reblogged this on Zoidette.